Intel Developer Forum Spring 2004 - Day 1: Wider and Faster
by Derek Wilson on February 18, 2004 10:41 AM EST- Posted in
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PCI Express Product Launches
NVIDIA and ATI have officially begun the switch to PCI Express by launching their initial products. NVIDIA implements PCI Express via a bridge chip while ATI's solutions are native. Our ATI Roadmap article shows the lineup we can expect to see come out of ATI this year. NVIDIA launched four PCI Expressed solutions dubbed Geforce PCX:GeForce PCX 5950
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce PCX 4300
The PCX 4300 is an iteration of NVIDIA's MX value line, the 5300 and 5750 are bridged 5200 and 5700 cards respectively.
Apparently ATI demonstrated a "next generation" GPU at a presentation they gave on Tuesday showing off 2 to 3x performance gains over their current generation cards running DX9. Of course, it was an unreleased game on unreleased hardware, we didn't get to run the benchmarks ourselves, and apparently the performance of the next gen part was just at acceptable levels.
ATI is really pushing the idea that native PCI Express gives them an advantage in things like running multiple HD streams at higher frame rates than AGP or a bridged solution allow, but again, we need hardware to test in order to verify these claims.
We will have longer meetings with both ATI and NVIDIA over the next couple days, and we will be sure to report on what learn.
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Mrburns2007 - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
XDR has 6.4 GB/s per chip not module.Ecmaster76 - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
"ultra emulated x86 with 8-way-hyperthreading and a +5 Dynamic Compiler of Doom"Sweet! Where can I get one? Is it compatible with my DRAM skin armor?
Someones been playing too much Baldur's Gate, and not just me.
(Think of all the processors Intel could sell with marketing like that.)
DerekWilson - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
Actually, PCI-X is completely differet from PCI Express ... PCI-X is a parallel architecture that's wider and faster than the 32bit 33mhz pci bus ... PCI Express is specification for a point to point serial bus protocol (and multiple serial data streams can be sent to the same periphreial, thus the x16 pci express graphics card).Any when I was talking about ATI's "next gen" chip I wasn't talking about their current PCI Express solution RV380. I was talking about some unspecified demo that I'm going to assume was R420 or R423... I just didn't want to mention a card since ATI wouldn't tell me which card it was that was powering the box.
I think I fixed all the typos, sorry bout that ... I've been working by jumping between hotspots and hand coding html rather than using the dreamweaver over broadband that I'm used to ;-)
Lonyo - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
Intel was pretty much always going to use compatible 64bit extensions.They have to work with the OS, since MS is pretty much dictating that.
AMD set up the initial spec (I would assume), and Intel didn't have much choice but to follow.
ATi and nVidia have to stick to the PCI-Express spec to make their next gen graphics cards, and that was designed by Intel, it's just a similar thing.
AMD obviously did well to get there first though and set the standards.
Malladine - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
KillaKilla's older brother: PC3200 Bandwidth is 3.2gb/s :)http://www.kingston.com/newtech/ddrbandwidth.asp
KillaKilla - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
whoops forgot a few things, guess I "jumped the gun[post]"...1st, this isn't KillaKilla, hes my brother, I don't have my own nick yet, sorry...
What did you mean by "2x to 3x performance gains" for native PCI-X (pci express is PCIX, right? I've seen it as PCI-E, but that was from before?) Also, what are these "HD streams"(2nd to last paragraph, 2nd page) you talk about?
3rd page:
"The upcoming XDR chips were on display up at the RAMBUS both across from a demo of Toshiba chips running at very high speeds (the bandwidth of XDR is 6.4GB/s)." Isn't DC-DDR 3200/400's bandwidth 6.4GB/s?
4th page:
I'm not surprised that intel cross-licenced x86-64... it was only logical seeing MS-XP64. Kudos to AMD for making a better 64-bit solution(extension set).
-KillaKilla's older brother
KillaKilla - Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - link
Once again, first post.Anyway, there are a few typos.
the Borad in the title?
The open tags on 2nd page