Geil's Impressive Display

Geil went all out at Computex to demonstrate what they could do with DDR and DDR-2. In addition to the DDR2-1066 that we have already talked about, there were several DDR demos.

There seemed to be a lot of interest in the Geil demonstration of DDR400 at CAS 1.5.


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The new DFI nForce4 boards support CAS 1.5 as a BIOS choice, and possibly a few other high-end boards. CAS 1.5 sounds impressive, but AMD tells us that they do not support CAS 1.5 in their on-chip memory controller. And the memory controller is on the AMD chip after all - and not on the motherboard. Our own tests several weeks ago comparing CAS 1.5 and CAS 2.0 on the DFI board did not find any performance difference in these two CAS timings using an AMD processor. We've asked Geil for samples, but we will reserve judgement until we have actually tested the new CAS 1.5 DIMMs.

Geil was also showing DDR running at a stable DDR700 speed at fast timings.


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Again, part of the secret was single-sided DIMMs - and everyone's single-sided DIMMs run faster than the double-sided DIMMs that most everyone actually buys. Geil's performance is impressive, and it demonstrates their excellent binning capabilities, but we suspect that many of the single-sided high-speed dimms from competitors will perform similarly if we tested with 256MB single-bank DIMMs. If you enlarge the image you will also see the FSB is 350 (700), but the CPU/RAM ratios are CPU/4. Our experience at this setting with Athlon 64 is that the true RAM speed sets to about 80% of CPU speed instead of the expected 100%. We would really be more comfortable that the memory is truly running at DDR700 if we could see it verified with other utilities that measure the RAM speed. We plan to take a closer look at these DIMMs in our standard double-sided configuration on our standard DFI DDR test bed.

Geil was also proudly displaying their new carbon-fiber heatspreaders. They claim that the carbon-fiber is lighter, cooler, and more efficient than the more commonly used aluminum and copper heatspreaders. However they work, it is undeniable that the carbon-fiber is a great look - and really makes the high-end Geil memory stand out from the crowd.

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  • Eug - Saturday, June 11, 2005 - link

    Thanks, I see.

    So carbon is a good electrical insulator, but also a good thermal conductor.

    Learn something new every day.
  • xsilver - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    good news to hear that abit is out of trouble

    but what the hell is going on with their guru clock?
    looks ugly as hell

    the 5.25" one in an older article (with the bios nuke button) was nice but not this new external one
  • KristopherKubicki - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    Correct about the diamonds.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond

    However, such little carbon is really not going to affect the thermals of the system. Besides, even if it transfers heat well, there still has to be surface area of the heat to dissapate.

    Kristopher

  • futuristicmonkey - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    #6

    No. Carbon is an excellent conductor of heat. It's the reason why diamond is the best conductor of heat in the world - it is very densely-packed carbon..or something like that.
  • Eug - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    Wouldn't the carbon fibre act as an insulator?
  • monsoon - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    well, personally i fancy the corsair led RAMs, but even MORE Important to me is the last pace MINI PC...

    ...i'm currently looking for a SILENT FANLESS PC; should be reasonably powered, can be a MINI PC, better if it has at least a 3 5'25" slots space so that i can put a 5 SATA bloc on it.

    anybody able to give directions ?

    =)

    THANKS
  • Furen - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    500mhz@1w, windows ce... sounds awfully like the craptastic AMD PIC. Though I must admit, it looks a lot more interesting in a decent-looking box
  • ryanv12 - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    that red foxconn mini-system is an eyesore.
  • plewis00 - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    How comes even though the Geil RAM is running at DDR2-1066, it's still only through-putting 2896MB/s - pretty low isn't it for such fast RAM (I'm aware of the timings, but still)...
  • Souka - Friday, June 10, 2005 - link

    http://downloads.vr-zone.com/pafiledb.php?action=d...

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