Spring IDF 2006 Conroe Preview: Intel Regains the Performance Crown
by Anand Lal Shimpi on March 7, 2006 3:58 PM EST- Posted in
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While we're still comparing to Socket-939 and only using RD480, it does seem very unlikely that AMD would be able to make up this much of a deficit with Socket-AM2 and RD580. With Conroe's performance advantage averaging over 20% it looks like Intel's confidence has been well placed.
Also keep in mind that we are over six months away from the actual launch of Conroe, performance can go up from where it is today. We also only looked at the 2.66GHz part, the Extreme Edition version of Conroe will most likely be clocked around 3.0GHz which will extend the performance advantage even further.
AMD still does have some time to surprise us with AM2, but from what we've seen today, they are going to have to do a lot of work to close this gap. We saw performance today in the two areas that we were most concerned about with Conroe: gaming and media encoding, and in both Intel greatly exceeded our expectations. Also remember that Conroe should be lower power than the AMD offering we compared it to, although we weren't able to measure power consumption at the wall in our brief time with the systems.
Going into IDF we expected to see a good showing from Conroe, but leaving IDF, well, now we just can't wait to have it.
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smut - Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - link
We are still comparing Intels NEW core to AMDs old core. Its like ATI pitting their 1900XT against the 7800s. A new card against a card thats been out for awhile (in the computer world and the way new tech comes out, its been awhile). I could care less who wins as more competition is always better for US, the consumers. I just want to see a new core against a new core. We can only hope AMD designs a new core so we can all have this awesome new tech from Intel/AMD at even cheaper prices. If AMD doesnt catch up to conroe then you will see me setting up an Intel rig! Long live competition!z3R0C00L - Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - link
Not at all...Let's do some looking back here.
Pentium Pro/II/III were known as 686's, hence there use of the codenamed "P6" bus.
The AMD Athlon/XP were known as 786's, hence there use of the codename "K7".
Intel Pentium IV/D were known as 786's, as they came after the P6 processors effectively making them 786 generation.
The AMD Athlon64 is known as the K8..that's right 886.
So Conroe and the K8 are both 8th generation designs. What does this mean?
Means it's comparing two chips from the same generation ;) When you do that, you will notice that Intel is always ahead of AMD... and always has been. Unlike the 6month cycle we see in Graphics cards.. CPU's are milked much longer.
RAVENCZ - Sunday, March 12, 2006 - link
At last, someone who hase good overwiev and good memory. I absolutely agree with you man. No more gap or excuses, that AMD doesn't have a new CPU on a market. It is not truth. AMD had jumped over Intel's generation CPUs, when they released K7 (Athlon) CPU. But These Athlons were competeing with an "old" generation of P III until P 4 had finally arrived. And for that period of time the generation race was equal, bud AMD needed a new generation to overrun Intel's solution (as always). And K8 was born. But in our midst, it is nothing more than Athlon XP with on-die memory controler and slightly improved integer operations plus 64bit execution capability in the main. After this K8 line there were again not equal condition. And no one was complaining at all. And now when Intel is about to releas its 8. generation of CPUs to really show us, how 8. generation has to look like, there are many people complaining, that it is not equal. Craps!! It is equal 8. gen from Intel versus 8. gen from AMD. And we will see who is better in designing CPUs. I believe Intel is. They have always been. Will really AMD need an 9. generation to compete with Intels 8. gen???? (as always)RAVENCZ - Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - link
At last, someone who hase good overwiev and good memory. I absolutely agree with you man. No more gap or excuses, that AMD doesn't have a new CPU on a market. It is not truth. AMD had jumped over Intel's generation CPUs, when they released K7 (Athlon) CPU. But These Athlons were competeing with an "old" generation of P III until P 4 had finally arrived. And for that period of time the generation race was equal, bud AMD needed a new generation to overrun Intel's solution (as always). And K8 was born. But in our midst, it is nothing more than Athlon XP with on-die memory controler and slightly improved integer operations plus 64bit execution capability in the main. After this K8 line there were again not equal condition. And no one was complaining at all. And now when Intel is about to releas its 8. generation of CPUs to really show us, how 8. generation has to look like, there are many people complaining, that it is not equal. Craps!! It is equal 8. gen from Intel versus 8. gen from AMD. And we will see who is better in designing CPUs. I believe Intel is. They have always been. Will really AMD need an 9. generation to compete with Intels 8. gen???? (as always)JackPack - Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - link
AMD doesn't have a radically new core in time for Conroe.Look at S754->S939 benchmarks and you'll realize the gains aren't even 10%.
AM2 doubles bandwidth, but diminishing returns means the gains from Rev.F are probably 5% or less.
coldpower27 - Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - link
You compare what's currently out to what currently out, it doesn't matter that much what generation it's from, they will be competitors for the meantime.Conroe is likely engaging Socket AM2 DDR2 Athlon 64x2's at up to 2.8GHZ initially, so that's what AMD is gonna battle with for the time being at Conroe introduction.
ChronoReverse - Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - link
In any case, no matter how you look at it, AM2 by itself isn't going to help AMD that much. We all know that the K8 isn't bandwidth starved. AM2 gives us DDR2 and... more bandwidth.smut - Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - link
yeah I know they dont have a new core out. I said if Intel is still king when its time to upgrade you will see me building an Intel rig. Im just saying it would be nice to compare both companies new cores *if* AMD had a new one. Thats when you will really see who is better at designing and building, thats all! It would be nice if Intel can make Conroe even faster by the time it launches!wingless - Friday, August 28, 2015 - link
Here we are 9 years later in 2015. Intel took the performance crown and kept it. Today, we're not sure if AMD will be around in the form we know in 1 to 2 years.michaelbillington - Friday, August 6, 2021 - link
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