MSI's Latest Laptops
We've had MSI laptops we really liked and laptops that had an odd component combination. MSI has quite a few new laptops coming out, so hopefully they come closer to the designs we liked this time.
First up is the C series, the "Classic" MSI notebooks. These are "thin" designs that still have all the typical components you would expect, including an optical drive. MSI has three new models coming out, the CR420 (14"), CR520 (15.6"), and CR720 (17.3"), all featuring the new Core i5 processors and Windows 7. The press release states that all three models use 1366x768 LCDs, unfortunately, and we don't have details on what sort of discrete graphics are available (if any).
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For mobile gamers, MSI is updating the G ("Gaming") series with the new Core i5/i7 CPUs. The 600 models are 16" LCDs while the 700 models are 17" chassis. The GT640 and GT750 both utilize Core i7 CPUs with GeForce GTS 250M graphics. The GTS 250M has 96 SPs clocked at 1250MHz, but with 128-bit RAM; GDDR5 is supported at up to 3.2GHz, but GDDR3 is also an option that would cut memory bandwidth in half, and we don't know the specifics of what MSI is using. The GX640 and GX740 in contrast use the new ATI Radeon HD 5000 series GPUs, with DX11 support, but we're not sure which specific GPUs are in use. (We'll update when we find out.) The GX models also appear to use 120Hz LCDs with "3D" support. All four GT/GX models have the traditional aluminum chassis with red trim that we've seen in previous MSI gaming notebooks. The two newcomers are the GE600 and GE700, which in contrast use "cutting-edge Color Film Print technology, touch panel keys that have undergone special color processing and a glossy decorative panel along the front edge to give them a futuristic and minimalist feel"… we're not even sure what that means. Other The GE series uses the same Radeon HD GPUs as the GX series.
Of course MSI also has some new netbooks to announce based on the Pine Trail platform. The MSI Wind U135 are 10.1" designs with 6-cell batteries, but MSI lists battery life at just 7.5 hours. We don't know how they're testing, but that's anywhere from 2.5 to 6.5 hours less than we measured with the ASUS 1005PE - hopefully MSI is using an Internet test or something similar rather than getting 7.5 hours of idle battery life. An alternative to the U135 is the new U160, which features a new chassis design and keyboard and weighs just 2.2 pounds. It comes with a gold Color Film Print finish.
Not shown is the (relatively new - it launched at the end of November 2009) 12.1" design, the Wind12 U230. The U230 builds on the design of the Wind12 U200, a CULV (Core 2 Solo in this case) offering that primarily targeted the European market. Honestly, it was too expensive, and the U230 drops CULV in favor of AMD's Athlon Neo X2 processor. Performance will be substantially higher than any Atom-based netbook, but battery life is listed as just 4 hours. The Wind12 U230 is available already, but the price is around €350, meaning this is another European laptop.
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Finally, we wrap up MSI with their X-Slim series. We weren't sold on the X610 we reviewed, though the Core 2 based X600 would have tested better. MSI has several new models to announce, the 13 inch X350 and X360, 14 inch X420, 15.6" X600 Pro and X620. All five use Intel CULV processors. The X420 uses the Color Film Print technology while the rest are in more traditional X-Slim black (with some patterns to mix things up). We don't have detailed specs for most of the X series, but we know the X620 will include some form of ATI HD graphics, the X420 will include the new ATI HD 5430, and the X350 and X360 claim to deliver up to nine hours of battery life. The X360 is also the first laptop we've heard of that will use an Arrandale ULV processor. Yes, please, we want to test one ASAP!
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SlyNine - Saturday, January 9, 2010 - link
On Dells site they have the XPS 16 studio, but it only has the 4670 1gig, not bad but not new.Wolfpup - Friday, January 8, 2010 - link
Darn, I was dying to see what Asus has. And I hope Dell fixes the USB and throttling issues on the M15x...wish that came with these new options, but I doubt it.JarredWalton - Friday, January 8, 2010 - link
We already covered a bunch of ASUS stuff a couple days ago:http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i...">http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i...
I have a few other pics I can add to that, but other than the Essentio CG5275 I don't have anything to add. The CG5275 is a Core i3/i5 gaming laptop with GTX 260M... I don't know anything else right now.
5150Joker - Sunday, January 10, 2010 - link
Wow you deleted my comment about Dell's Alienware M15x throttling? Is Anandtech a shill website now?5150Joker - Sunday, January 10, 2010 - link
Nevermind, my mistake. It didn't show until I had to clear the cache.JarredWalton - Sunday, January 10, 2010 - link
Honestly, without personal verification of the problem, I leave it to the users to talk about this sort of thing. This article was just a rundown of various laptop updates seen at CES and nothing more. Anyone looking to spend $1500+ on a laptop really ought to spend some time reading multiple reviews and attempting to find out if there are any known problems.Your issues with the M15x are duly noted and if we ever get another one for testing we'll try to replicate the problem. Would I buy a 15x, though? With or without the throttling concern, there are a lot of other laptops that would be higher on my list.
5150Joker - Saturday, January 9, 2010 - link
I sent you an e-mail regarding the M15x throttling problem before. It would be nice if Anandtech mentioned it before users go out and buy one and discover their $3000 shiny new toy throttles in their favorite games.mschira - Friday, January 8, 2010 - link
Yea, well I know Arrandale is the next big Intel thing, but I can't help I am not to excited.I can see that integrating the stuff into the CPU is the way to go, but that's not what they have been doing here.
I mean they didn't really move the memory interface into the CPU like the Core iWhatever numbering should imply.
What they did is they shrunk the Core 2 to 32nm and the Northbridge to 45nm, then sticking them on one die.
And the new integrated GPU sucks like every Intel GPU sucked ever since they started making them.
Since they didn't put the memory interface on the CPU (why by the way? AMD does it since forever and GPU in the northbridge still works), they should have left the Northbridge outside the Chip casing so NVIDIA could still offer their better GPUs.
Pitty that all is.
M.
MrSpadge - Saturday, January 9, 2010 - link
You didn't understand what Arrandale is. It is a "full Core i7", just with 2 cores instead of 4. You get everything: HT, the new cache system as well as new instructions. And it's the same excellent memory controller. Yes, it's not on the CPU die, but it's not connected via a limiting FSB either. It's connected via a "fast enough" on package link (much shorter and thus easy to implement) between GPU and CPU die. Sure, the graphics is not for 3D, but it does anything else in a power efficient way. It's free, so why complain? Want to game -> external GPU. Everyone else -> enjoy less power consumption.Just take a look at the performance of i7 860 versus i5 660: in typical apps their're almost similar, as they both turbo to similar clock speeds.
MrS
mschira - Saturday, January 9, 2010 - link
"It is a "full Core i7", just with 2 cores instead of 4."Nope. It isn't. The memory controler is NOT in the CPU die, but in the Graphic/Northbride chip.
So it's simply not a full Core i7. If it was I would be very excited. But it isn't.
M.